The Decentralized Web Is Coming

Google and Facebook topping the global
digital advertising market last year. You’re seeing this incredibly large company getting involved in almost every area of commerce. The big tech media companies they’re
actively silencing conservatives. What I’m saying is we gotta break these guys apart. You want to run a platform? That’s fine. You don’t get to run a whole bunch of the businesses as well. Google handles 88% of search traffic in America. Facebook has more than 2.4 billion active monthly users, and it’s projected that half of U.S. online retail will go through Amazon by 2020. There are calls from both sides of the aisle to break up the tech giants, to strip them of liability protections for what others say on their platforms, and to impose new regulations that would stop them from misusing the personal information of their customers. But there’s also a growing movement among some of the web’s pioneering thinkers and software developers to come up with technological solutions to countering the growing power of Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, and Google. The goal is to build a new decentralized web. There are so many different possible ways of decentralizing the internet and what’s lacking is the legal right to interoperate, and the legal support to stop dirty tricks from preventing you from exercising that legal right. Cory Doctorow is a science fiction author and tech journalist at Boing Boing, who’s been thinking and writing about the web since it was introduced by Tim Berners-Lee in the early 1990s. Berners-Lee and other web pioneers, Doctorow points out, intended for their creation to be decentralized, and open source. The cyber utopian view was not merely that seizing the means of information would make you free, but that failing to do so would put you in perpetual chains. Well there are a lot of reasons to want a more decentralized, diffused, pluralistic, Internet. It’s hard to imagine that anyone is competent to make great decisions for two and a half billion people. Is there any reason to seriously doubt that this will just take care of itself? That more people will do what you have done and log off Facebook? The collective-action problem of everyone deciding that it’s time to leave Facebook, is a really hard one, and as we see it’s not getting easier because even when you do leave Facebook, by and large, you end up on a service that’s owned by Facebook. There are many theories about why the web became centralized. Doctorow largely blames the abuse of intellectual property law to defeat the decentralized free software movement, which was championed by the activist and programmer Richard Stallman, who helped create the popular open-source operating system Linux. But today hackers are divided between the old values and the new. Imagine if you bought a house, and the basement was locked and only the original building contractor had the key. If you needed to make any change, repair, anything, you have to go to him. And if he was too busy doing something else, he’d tell you to get lost and you’d be stuck. When Richard Stallman walked into a lab at MIT and found that someone had put a lock on the drawer where they kept the paper tapes for the computer and he was like what do you mean, I can’t take that paper tape out and change the holes punched in it? I’m a computer scientist, I’m gonna recreate all of the holes in that paper tape and make a clone of Unix. Passed in 1998, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act became an impediment to the open and permissionless approach to software development. The law was intended to prevent duplication of Hollywood movies but it was eventually applied to all software. Breaking digital locks to learn from and approve upon the code of dominant web platforms became a federal crime. Today’s tech companies use IP to shield their proprietary code from would-be competitors. And so this thicket of exclusive rights around products that can be invoked to prevent new entrants from making add-ons, compatible products, or even competing products, has made it very hard for new entrants to emerge and I think is in large part responsible for the concentration in the industry and all of that thicket exists today because people who made their money as insurgents, spent that money to keep their newfound power. Despite the legal and political challenges, Doctorow outlines, there are innovators attempting to create new decentralized ecosystems of web services. This former Christian Science church in
San Francisco houses the Internet Archive, a digital repository of more than 50 petabytes of images movies and texts. The organization has also archived more than 330 billion web pages. The archives mission is to make all of mankind’s knowledge available online forever, to everyone, for free. Which is a pretty big vision, right? Mitra Arden, who’s the internet archives head of decentralization, says the history of the web is too important to be held in custody by a single organization. He’s overseeing a plan to migrate the internet archives more than 50 million gigabytes of data to a distributed network in which the information is spread out among a storage network maintained by users. The decentralized web now is in the state that the early web was back in the early 90s, right so, there’s a lot of things that work on a small scale don’t walk on a large scale. We’re a large-scale site but we’re also
cite that if we put up decentralized web and it breaks, we don’t have our whole business model contingent upon it. A beta version of this peer-to-peer network is already operating and publicly accessible. I think what it would look like is a world where servers were everywhere. That your internet router at home would also be a server, and those servers would talk to each other, and the interface may look very similar to what it is now except you wouldn’t be controlled by the branding, so the user interface and the data would be separate, now the user interface and the data are inextricably tied together. But Cory Doctorow doesn’t think the decentralized web can take off without government intervention. He agrees with Elizabeth Warren that the Federal Trade Commission should break up the tech giants. If you had your way, Facebook would have to sell off Instagram, Amazon would have to sell off all those little businesses that they’re running, competing businesses, yep. Who is federal government to tell these companies they have to do that? Uh, there’s antitrust law, it’s been around for more than a hundred years. If you have a bunch of tech companies that got giant by doing exactly the same things that all the other companies through history that got giant doing, that we used to ban, and that we stop banning right when the tech industry started, maybe we could just try enforcing those rules again. Why would the focus be on antitrust and not on, you know, reforming intellectual property laws? So I think you’ve got a logical or, or you want a logical and. We do need structural separation, we do need to break Facebook up so that it can no longer engage in this anti-competitive behavior, but that’s just part of a set of reasons to do both. I guess the part that I am a little bit confused about is the sense in which these companies are monopolies. Because yes Google dominates search, Amazon dominates online shopping, but of course, there are competitors they’re buying up potential competitors all the time, and adding new technologies to their portfolio, but what sense does that make them a monopoly? It may not make them a monopoly but it makes them monopolistic. Okay. Right in the history of antitrust, a monopoly is not the only game in town, a monopoly exerts so much gravity that it distorts the market. Are there any promising technological solutions to this decentralizing the web? I think we have all the tech, I mean it’ll need constant evolution and maintenance but like it’s all out there. Web 3.0 has this wonderful set of trust baked into the internet itself. Molly McKinley is a former Google programmer and current project lead of IPFS, the Interplanetary File system. A communications protocol that’s meant to replace the system by which most of us access the web now, through Hypertext Transfer Protocol, that is, the HTTP you see in your web browser. While HTTP connects your computer to a particular server, IPFS scours the network for a piece of content and connects you to whomever happens to be hosting it. The video you want to watch, the document you want to load, the website you want to go to, by what it is that you’re trying to view, not who you’re trying to get it from. And that that change, that, kind of, simple seeming switch in how you organize things makes huge ripple effects and differences in what sort of tools you’re empowered to build. Think of natural disasters, or censorship, or other cases like that where people lose access to content on the internet today, you want them to continue being able to collaborate and organize with each other, and communicate and rely on these sorts of technologies and tools. Why would people host contents? Right now obviously the answer is you make money by having the computer that hosts the content and serves it to people. Many people will join that cause because they believe in that cause and help make sure that Wikipedia, or other data sets like that that we really care about, continue to be backed up purely altruistically, but you can also end up in models tit for tat for lack of a better word, where like okay, you host my photo content and I’ll host yours, and this way both of us have backup, so if either one of our machines goes down there’s a backup of content and we can, you know, do that with a whole group of friends and you are providing me a really useful service, and I’m participating in that Network. And then finally you can end up in models of like storage for hire. So file point which is in development is an incentivized storage network, by serving data, by storing people’s data you can earn a cryptographic token. McKinley sees the decentralized web as a way to sidestep the dangers of government regulation and even authoritarian control. A decentralized framework where there isn’t that middleman, that can be manipulated or coerced or regulated into exposing your data that’s a better, safer, more resilient world which doesn’t end up in this case where it’s susceptible to an authoritarian manipulation control. We didn’t take a broad enough view of our responsibilities and that was a big mistake, and it was my mistake, and I’m sorry. These two almost contradictory narratives that I see and one is that the web is too centralized, there are these big companies controlling everything, and then especially out of Congress you hear that it’s too anarchic too decentralized, trolls, hateful people, disinformation, and we need to be able to control it, and there’s a certain convenience to being able to call Mark Zuckerberg in front of Congress. Absolutely. So we get a choice now whether we’re gonna fix big tech or fix the internet, but we don’t get to do both. If we decide that we’re going to give Big Tech state-like duties to prevent bad action on their platforms, we require them to be
big enough to do so. And we put a floor under how small we can allow them to become. If you make tech smaller, it’s harder to suborn them to act as arms of the state. I think that’s a feature, not a bug. We don’t want to allow one person’s judgment to be the be-all and end-all of how the rest of us have to conduct our lives. We want to have checks on their authority and one of the ways that you get checks on someone’s authority is by allowing the people who live under that authority to go somewhere else.

100 thoughts on “The Decentralized Web Is Coming

  1. More like oligopolies, which is worse because it produces an atmosphere where companies conspire and demonstrate their true motive and intent.

  2. At 2:45, get your facts straight. Richard Stallman did not help create Linux. The GNU tools and free software license helped to create Linux, which Stallman had a a large hand in. Linus Torvalds created Linux.

  3. So then it seems to me that lobbying is the ultimate reason this cannot be achieved. Big tech lobbies congress to pass laws in their favor. Once the lobbying stops perhaps the internet can become free.

  4. Yeap. Divide and conquer. And the more the government intervenes in our interactions, the more freedoms we lose…

    This is the Marxist dream: steal every good idea and make it work for you. All of this is about control. Already started. Russia and China are very much against this as people can't fall for the government propaganda. Let business run free I say.

  5. May God Bless The USA! May God Bless Our POTUS! May God Bless The Patriots!



  6. Sorry ReasonTV, but Amazon, Google, Facebook & Twitter are not in the fed's crosshairs, they've put the fed in their pockets.

  7. Everything changed when that POS CIA Plant BO/BS gave away the US Ownership of the Internet.
    Now the UN pushes their Dictatorial level of Crap on Everybody on the Net.
    FaceF*uck and the rest of those AssClowns are so worried about the “Laws” of those ShitHoles and Shit on the Rights of Americans.
    Respect the 1st. or F*ck Off.
    Plenty out there ready to fill the vacancy.

  8. They shield their stolen github code from people.
    Bill gates, stole his code. He didn't write it himself.
    Facebook, stole CMD code.
    Apple, stole Linux.
    I never pay for this type of software.

  9. No mention of how we bypass ISP's who are the gatekeepers of the web. No mention of how cheap money from central banks made the tech monopolies possible in the first place.

  10. Google is evil. Facebook is evil. Twitter is borderline evil.
    It's time to breakup these companies.
    It's time for the Bill of Rights for the Web!

  11. My dumbass assumed the web is always decentralized… but, of course, Big Brother would never allow it.

    Any solution to this problem would have to be fundamental. A symptomatic approach will change nothing…

    The IPFS solution seems appealing. And all efforts at decentralization presented are improvements upon the Big Tech (Government aided) rule of internet that we have now.

  12. Really i get it Crypto is a pioneer tech but surely enough know of it & it cover this very issue, but why isn't either in the comments or in the video itself isn't any one mentioning what i find to be the elephant in the room, & that crypto ( as there is numerous coins based solely on the innovation that is a decentralised internet ( like elastos for example ) , Nither Gov , Silicon valley or similar , or proponents even mention of it , that the wiredst aspect not even the proponents , seriously what gives.

  13. Why don’t we just go to google and destroy the google server!? Grab your magnetic pitchforks, water torches and let’s go spread some fuckin’ freedom !

  14. A system that relies on altruism will inevitably fail.

    People are self-interested by their very nature, you have to give people a reason to want to do something and "because it's the right thing to do" isn't a good reason.

  15. Why does anti-trust apply to business, but not to government? The Constitution was the limit on government, but it's largely ignored now.

  16. Blockchain, TOR, and Torrenting are huge technologies that emerged to meet the need of decentralizing commodities and information. It will eventually get to the point where data services will be decentralized, albeit highly illegally. It's inevitable.

  17. I've never had a facefart thing. I must be one of like 5 people I've ever met in person that hasn't…. I had myspace 10+ years ago tough and got off it and was so happy when I did.
    YT is the only platform I use.
    EDIT: So if networks aren't centralized then say I have a website, couldn't someone else copy that and alter the content and pretend it is my website to commit defamation?
    @10:54 "*WE* need to be able to control it" he says. Now this sounds like another power grab. Who is this WE?

  18. My idea of decentralization is making your own internet providers with a link to the internet, but its own private network separate from the internet which does not follow rules or principals we are all restricted to follow. Wouldn't it be great to have a free interchange of data between people as fast as your local interface goes, without spying eyes? That in my opinion would be decentralized. The internet is too controlled and restricted.

  19. Why would the Jesuit Military Order give up its monopoly of control over the internet now? Rome controls all banking, governments, education, culture, intelligence and technology through their hierarchy of control and not about to give more freedom of choice to anyone. It's clear that the people discussing this issue have little idea about who controls what. A more free internet just isn't going to happen when Roman Canon Law dictates who can do what with world communications. Learn more about the Jesuit Vatican Shadow Empire at: or You Tube channel- Darkness Is Falling: The Jesuit Vatican Shadow Empire

  20. this the future folks , mark my words ….come check out my libertarian channel and hopefully you will also subscribe , I need your comments in my videos , I am uploading on a daily basis and need all the support I can get from fellow libertarians and anarchists

  21. Reason magazine has gone full communist… And no one understands the root of the problem – human stupidity. Don't use Facebook! Don't use Google! Don't use Apple! Don't use Microsoft! Don't use Twitter! Etc. Problem solved.

  22. Anytime I hear blockchain devs talk about censorship resistance I want to ask them, 'what will you do when FCC or EU tells you that they need to scan your product for "hate speech?" '

  23. A better Internet can happen, for instance if a portion of Top teir peering ISP access were made available for the public and the "little guys" who don't own all the infrastructure.

  24. I want a true wild west internet. Search engines with no filters, Torrents totally legal, Youtube uncensored, everything paid with crypto currency.

  25. I just proactively did NOT watch this video – even though I came here intentionally – because YouTube hit me with the FIFTH three-minute infomercial in 10 minutes. This is getting worse than old television used to be. So I will never hear your video, and that makes me sad. I am off to BitChute to listen to the crazies instead. PLEASE move your videos to BitChute – or eliminate this horrible advertising. Have a look at how the pros do it – they offer product placement WITHIN their videos so folks like me don`t rage-quit. 🙂

  26. Need to end Internet Gate Keepers. Computer scientists in Brazil were designing an alternative Internet that runs completely on private peoples computers.

  27. Elizabeth Warren is a joke and using that puppet to prove your point actually does a disservice to the intent of this video.

  28. These tech companies are huge because people keep using their product mindlessly. Choices are there and you can actually find alternative, just put the energy to find it.

  29. Nationalize the companies. Thats what the communists do.
    I left facebook. Google however is a great search tool. It's hard to let go.

  30. Ya right 90% of the internet cant fit on a 30 to flash card. . And where are those microscopic hard drives 5 years ago that can hold all the data in the world

  31. Why ourlook express dint work and when will we use the internet with one pasword its … its like 30 or 40 all hackable

  32. I’m ready to see someone regulate Apple out of existence, but I agree with the prospect of breaking these guys up. Maybe doing so will return YouTube to its original size.

  33. That cartoon they were showing clips of, where the snake oil salesman was trying to sell them "socialism" was awesome!!! That's a cartoon that should be shown every year to every student, grades 7 through 10!!!

  34. Big tech typical robber barons ! Used their early profits to buy laws protecting them yes I wrote buy laws, our government is totally for sale.

  35. Your an idiot if ya didn't catch the WHOLE point of this- to tell you that mean trolls on the internet ARE a problem the gov't needs to take care of, and that google isn't a monopoly.

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  37. Every time I write or publish something that is TRUE but Zuckerberg and accolades don't like it, I am censored and banned from my Facebook page for 30 days without any proof neither discussion about it.

  38. there are so many things wrong with this and instead of writing a novel I'll summarize it like this… these folks are not advocating for anything that would be good for consumers they are suggesting that all the free services people enjoy from tech companies should go away in favor of penalizing them for making good products that people choose to use/consume. Before facebook there was myspace and many people thought that facebook didn't have a chance to take on a giant like myspace, but guess what… and here's the real solution… it was innovation that allowed facebook to basically out develop myspace. IP laws for tech companies are not really a big thing, they mainly serve to protect companies against employees that might walk away with the secret sauce. Anyone that knows how to code can look at someone else's program and get a pretty good idea of how to do the same thing and even compete with the likes of fakebook much like how facebook did with myspace. Innovation is the solution, not government intervention for bad ideas that will hurt every consumer by crippling tech companies from innovating. I like the idea of peer-to-peer network, but the rest of the stuff in this video is just bad ideas one after another.

  39. Gotta love the smug undertones to Warren’s rebuttal, “There’s anti-trust law. It’s been around for more than a hundred years.”

    You know some other old laws, Senator? The laws which dictated separate facilities for whites and blacks in the South.

  40. You all are not seeing the much much much larger picture, we are heading towards a new world order and one world gov where only a handful will rule and run everything. From gov, to business to how we live and work and die will all be controlled by a very few. How can you not see it!, the world was told live over the t.v that a one world order was coming and promised you that it will come. They are going to control how many people will be alive on this planet.

    Take a good look at this site, the future forcast for 2025 there is only going to be 100 million Americans left in America. All other countries will also loose many many millions of it's people. I am sure you don't think that they are just going to bring out their harry potter wand and just say POOF! and disappear!, No.. there is a grand plan in place. The very few are sucking up everything in site and by 2030 this new world order will be in place.

    Population reduction will come before the new world order takes it's place on the stage.


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  41. Using the state in an attempt to hobble monopolies which utilized the apparatus of the state to forge themselves into monopolies.

    Who was it that said 'the thinking used to solve a problem cannot be the same as the thinking that created it'?

  42. Bit Torrent … It is not new, but policing people has gone after those services for copyrighted content. There is a lot that needs changing. People need to change their perspective of who we are as humans and we need to step away from this profit model. Frankly I do not see this happening without a major struggle.

  43. That maybe the goal to prevent Big tech from doing this shit publicly but the government is going to push the agenda on the left while everyone is looking right. Kansas City suffle

  44. I don't understand why people are so bitchy againts google having 80% of the search results, btw i understand its actually too much in terms of trusting someone, we are basically trusting them 80% of our responses, but still they have that much because competitors are trash, i dont use bing because i dont like nothing about it, and most people think like this. The only thing you could call out on google for, is that they pay samsung and other mobile companies to have google on their phones

  45. I love how you use clips of leftists who are ideologically instep with the big tech giants who censor and control us. You can paint those leftists elites as defenders of our rights but it does NOT make it so. .

  46. Normies ruin everything XD

    Every time something becomes normalized
    It gets regulated

    It was better when it was decentralized

  47. Try running Linux Live through a VPN and eventually your ISP will just throttle you down. If they can't track it and control it, they won't let it on the net.

  48. Any employer who employs a employee from Google, Facebook, or Twitter is in for a rude shock. I forsee the internet community wreaking those businesses and driving them to the wall. A sound word of warning to ALL employers : NEVER, never ever employ a former employee of Google, Facebook, or Twitter. For the past 10 years, those leaches have undermined the egalitarianism and freedom of the internet. Not to mention, they have gone to great lengths to undermine the democracy of many countries around the world. To all tech employees, if you discover that a former employee of Google, Facebook, or Twitter is working at your company, then please please make their life absolute hell.

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